22-01-2018, 01:32 PM
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UK v. Russia?
I have been reading in the news how our armed forces are being compared to those of Russia in a hope to increase their numbers and finances.I do, however, agree that our forces have been cut to the bone recently, and need to be restored to reasonable levels.
However, on what grounds are they suggesting that our forces should compare favourably to those of Russia?
During the 'cold war' the whole of NATO could not match the Russians, at least in numbers. Now, for some reason, they are arguing that ours, the British, alone should match them!
That will not happen, whatever they claim or hope for.
We should not be worried about the Russians anyway for two reasons: I cannot see them having any interest in invading this country; and, of course, there is the much vaunted EU Army between them and us!
Defence spending figures are not an indication of the strength of our armed forces either, however high they may appear, not when we have a vast army of pen pushers in the MoD and we have more admirals than warships!
22-01-2018, 01:35 PM
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Re: UK v. Russia?
Originally Posted by JBR
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I have been reading in the news how our armed forces are being compared to those of Russia in a hope to increase their numbers and finances.I do, however, agree that our forces have been cut to the bone recently, and need to be restored to reasonable levels.
However, on what grounds are they suggesting that our forces should compare favourably to those of Russia?
During the 'cold war' the whole of NATO could not match the Russians, at least in numbers. Now, for some reason, they are arguing that ours, the British, alone should match them!
That will not happen, whatever they claim or hope for.
We should not be worried about the Russians anyway for two reasons: I cannot see them having any interest in invading this country; and, of course, there is the much vaunted EU Army between them and us!
Defence spending figures are not an indication of the strength of our armed forces either, however high they may appear, not when we have a vast army of pen pushers in the MoD and we have more admirals than warships!
Better start learning to speak and write in Russian, if Spetznaz come here in numbers, they'd walk right over our military.
22-01-2018, 03:02 PM
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Re: UK v. Russia?
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Better start learning to speak and write in Russian, if Spetznaz come here in numbers, they'd walk right over our military.
And, as Julia says, Russia is our friend! Certainly, they have been doing more than either us or the US about ISIS.
If we think back to the Cold War, there was so much concern about Russia charging across and conquering the whole of Western Europe. Did they? No. Some say because of our nuclear deterrent. Perhaps. I have a different theory.
Ever since the Nazis go almost as far as Moscow - and remember that Napoleon did something similar - the Russians, quite rightly, have been concerned about the security of their homeland.
Since 1945, they controlled all of East Europe, but I don't believe that was purely expansionism for its own sake. I believe they did that in order to have buffer states as a protection of their own country, and I would have done the same. Their threats came from the West: they knew that from history, and I can well understand their need to protect themselves.
No, I don't think we need worry about Russia.
Our real enemy is within our own country, right now. They are the only ones who have been attacking us.
22-01-2018, 03:45 PM
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Re: UK v. Russia?
Originally Posted by JBR
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I have been reading in the news how our armed forces are being compared to those of Russia in a hope to increase their numbers and finances.I do, however, agree that our forces have been cut to the bone recently, and need to be restored to reasonable levels.
However, on what grounds are they suggesting that our forces should compare favourably to those of Russia?
During the 'cold war' the whole of NATO could not match the Russians, at least in numbers. Now, for some reason, they are arguing that ours, the British, alone should match them!
That will not happen, whatever they claim or hope for.
We should not be worried about the Russians anyway for two reasons: I cannot see them having any interest in invading this country; and, of course, there is the much vaunted EU Army between them and us!
Defence spending figures are not an indication of the strength of our armed forces either, however high they may appear, not when we have a vast army of pen pushers in the MoD and we have more admirals than warships!
22-01-2018, 04:52 PM
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Re: UK v. Russia?
Originally Posted by Uncle Joe
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Better start learning to speak and write in Russian, if Spetznaz come here in numbers, they'd walk right over our military.
Due to the economic conditions in the former USSR, They now moonlight as bodyguards, debt collectors, organized crime hitmen and the most heavily armed bouncers in civilization (apart from bouncers at clubs near Hereford).
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