02-02-2011, 03:21 PM
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Communism, Socialism, Capitalism
Which is right?A lot depends on your points of view.
Communism is great in theory but is no good in practice as history has already proved.
Socialism, sounds good when you have people who want to make things better for the 'People' but again as has history has shown by Blair/Brown Regime' it does not work.
Capitalism, this is proving to be profitable for some but not for all. The main problem is Greed, which is in all of us to some extent.
Do not start a war or condem anyone for their views but what is your view on each society?
02-02-2011, 03:34 PM
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Re: Communism, Socialism, Capitalism
Originally Posted by Aerolor
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I hope this turns into a lively topic Antibrown and thanks for putting it into its proper place. I will have a bit of a think and post something later 
Me, I am a Socialistic Communist with Capitalistic views.
02-02-2011, 04:00 PM
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Re: Communism, Socialism, Capitalism
I think that we can ignore communism as a proven failure. On the other two, they are different sides of the same coin that cannot exist one without the other. Socialism is financed by capitalism, and capitalism could not exist without a society to profit from.The irony is the dislike that one has for the other, when they could not exist without each other!
02-02-2011, 04:08 PM
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Having been a radical communist in my youth, my ideal was always the type of communist society envisaged by Marx when he wrote of a society where,“nobody has one exclusive sphere of activity but each can become accomplished in any branch he wishes, society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticize after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, shepherd or critic.”
In other words a society which takes, “From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need”
Unfortunately, in practice, "communism" has meant the exact opposite - an ultra-authoritarian society with rigid state and party control. No "communist" state has ever come close to even desiring Marx' ideal society, let alone realising it, so I have to conclude that politically, communism is a dead duck.
What passes for "socialism" in our society (as characterised by The Labour Party) is simply capitalism with a (sort of) human face - although to be honest, under the appalling Blair, the mask slipped and New Labour were revealed as New Tories.
Capitalism is what we seem to be stuck with, but I still hanker for Marx' ideal society where one can be an individual yet still work for the benefit of all.
If forced to characterise myself politically I would describe myself as an anarcho-socialist libertarian Attilla the Hun only nice.
Mick
02-02-2011, 05:30 PM
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Re: Communism, Socialism, Capitalism
Originally Posted by claireandaisy
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The lighter the hand on the tiller, the better the boat sails. JMO.
So... none of `em for me. But no alternative ism to suggest I`m afraid.
02-02-2011, 06:03 PM
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Re: Communism, Socialism, Capitalism
Most people tell me I am to the right of Attila the HunI have no love of communism (My wife was born under a communist regime) but I could point out that under communism:-
a) There was virtually no crime against individuals (But stealing from your employer was endemic and almost considered normal)
b) Every one had a job (But it was imposed on you) once clocked in you could do virtually anything, read the paper, have a beer, make a new kitchen table for your home etc)
c) Every item was the same price in every shop across the whole country. So a price label could be put on at manufacture 'cos it didn't matter where it was sold.
Just thought I would post that. The list of negatives are of course much longer
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