Europe or the USA

My husband is always saying we should be a part of the USA as Europe hates us and is costing us lots of money in many ways and the only ones who really stand with us are the Americans when trouble is looming what are your views on this I am very laid back and don't really understand a lot about politics but I would be interested to know what other opinions you have on this....
Sue

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We owe a lot to America, . . in fact we owe our freedom to America, if it wasn't for America helping us during WW2 we'd have lost the war.

We should be closer IMO, .. Europe has always been a burden to us and since we joined the EC it's become worse, . . too many cooks spoil the broth and the pot's boiling over IMO.

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I don`t think we should be part of either. The Celts were a nation long before the Romans marched in - and certainly way before the Mayflower sailed.
Why can`t we just be us?

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I can only say that I'd love it to happen, we share a language and a heritage of freedom, but politically it'll never take place. You could never accept our lax gun controls nor the existence of the death penalty in some states; and our conservative politicians would balk at your national health which they persist in calling socialized medicine ...and while I love my country, I'd be very very sorry to see the UK with it's long and glorious history become just another State. It just doesn't seem right....

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Thanks for the replies so far
Nero:- also lets not forget the Iraqi war where was Nato also Afghanistan where are all the european forces????
Dandysmom:-I agree with the gun thingy too but I really do wonder sometimes at our NHS system it is a wonderful thing if it is run correctly but sadly in a lot of cases not so and so much more money that is wasted could be ploughed into it but sadly again not so.. We do have a long and glorious history and a huge pride in our country ....
ClaireandDaisy:- I wish we could just be us too sometimes the way we are going scares me but it isn't as bad as lots of places in the world is it....

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Europe... America has made too many enemies and I don't fancy getting blown up for some oil barons!

Joking aside - I haven't really thought about it. Would be nice if Europe became a proper super power I guess, and I actually like a lot of the European countries and culture... so much history.

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How could we ever be a part of a nation that cannot pronounce the word herb??

I lived in Yorkshire for over 20 years and some of them forget the H (appen).

Be friends to all but remember that good fences make good neighbours. Hadrian knew about that when he built a wall

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Well, as an American ex-pat, I'm a little biased on the subject! However, after 23 years of living in the U.K. I'm not entirely sure I'd want to strengthen ties with either the U.S. or Europe. We've got enough problems of our own without getting overly involved in theirs. Hope this doesn't sound too xenophobic

Mind you, I'd love to have better access to American foods and other products that you can't get over here. Even with increased access via the internet, there are still things I can't get!

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We shouldn't be a part of either Europe, or America. We have all but lost our identity and it is costing us much more money having MEPs, who all sit in a European parliament bringing out stupid, idiotic rules such as the curve of a banana, banning the "Clootie" dumplings, etc etc etc. We should go it alone, as we always did!

That's my view though!

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I'm not going to say one way or the other, it's complicated.

However, here are few points to think over:-

a) There are some (Not a lot) of European forces in Afganistan. The Czech Army have sent about 450 specialists in mine detection and removal. They have have had one fatality, not a lot but still someones loved son

b) Everyone knows the NHS has failings and wastes a lot of money, it amazes me that it has taken so long for this to be discussed let alone rectified.

c) I disagree about people having huge pride in our country, some do of course, but I've always found that the Americans have much greater pride in their country than we do.

d) Just be us and be like were were 50 or a 100 years ago, oh how I wish that too but the world has moved on. Sadly we now have to accept values and ways of living that our parents and grandparents would never accept. Iternational trade is now so important to our economy that we have to accept the lower standards that exist in many countries simply to be able to trade with them.

The United States of Europe - will it ever exist? Yes, but not in our lifetime that's for sure (or even our childrens lifetime)