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01-05-2015, 07:20 PM
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I would beat the shit out of him

While back I was accuss of being bassically a thug on here when I mention we beat up a child rapist



I wonder the same people what would do if you caught this monster raping your one day old grandson , one give him a pant on the back , two phone the police ,three hit him with anger then phone the police ,



Stuart Young
Stuart Young will be sentenced at the High Court next month
A man has been convicted of raping a one-day-old baby boy and two other young children.
Stuart Young preyed on the children between November 2008 and December 2013 at various locations in Edinburgh.
The High Court in Edinburgh heard the attacks on the one-day-old boy continued until he was aged three months.
A jury convicted Young on two charges of rape and another of sexual assault. Sentence was deferred.
The week-long trial heard how, in November 2008, Young raped a girl who was aged just six months.
He continued to sexually assault her until December 2013 when she was aged five.
Prison sentence
In July 2013, he abused a nine-year-old girl at an address in the capital's Stenhouse area.
Following conviction, temporary judge Paul Arthurson QC deferred sentence for the court to obtain reports about Young's character.
The judge warned Young, who lived in Sighthill, Edinburgh, to expect a lengthy prison sentence.
Judge Arthurson said: "You have been convicted of some truly depraved and despicable crimes.
"You should expect a sentence to reflect your level of criminality."
Young, who has previous convictions for non-analogous offences, had entered not guilty pleas and denied any wrongdoing.
The details of the case were so traumatic that jurors have been excused from serving on another jury for five years.
Defence solicitor advocate Ian Paterson told the court that his client realised that he was going to be sent to prison.
He said: "Mr Young expects that a substantial period of imprisonment will be imposed upon him."
Specialist support
Sheriff Arthurson deferred sentence and Young swore as he left the dock with two security officers who were taking him to the court room cells.
Young was also placed on the sex offenders register. He will be sentenced at the High Court in Edinburgh on 28 May.
Det Insp Douglas Moran, of Police Scotland, said specialist support was being given to Young's victims and their families.
He said: "Thanks to the bravery of these two little girls in speaking up about the horrific abuse Young inflicted upon them, their physical ordeal is over and their tormentor is now facing a considerable prison sentence. The baby boy was given a voice so he too could be spared further suffering.
"However they, and their families, have had to live through Young's catalogue of offending again since he refused to accept responsibility for his actions and subjected them to a trial.
"Specialist support continues to be provided to the children and their families, and I hope they take comfort that he is now behind bars."
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01-05-2015, 08:00 PM
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Can I just quote you..

*Few years back when we were a rugby training , a chap run across our pitch with policemen chasing them , couple lads from our rugby team give chased and caught this chap , when the police arrived couple of the policemen give this chap a dig , we ask what he done to deserve such treatment , the police officer said he's sexual assaulted a young boy in the park , we ask the police can we give him a beating too , they said yes and walk around the corner as we give this nonce good hiding , the police come back and said , he put up a fight and assaulted our police officer , we said yes and we will be witness to the assault , yes I would tell the police if a child or woman was assaulted , but if I witness such crime , I wouldn't stand and do nothing , they get the back of my hand , I really hate nonces and bullies *


The difference between the case you quote and the man you gave a beating to was that the man in the above case has been tried and convicted..
Justice has heard the evidence and will sentence him.

Im not saying that the first reaction of a parent who caught someone abusing their child wouldnt be to hit out as a shock reaction it would be perfectly understandable.
But for a group to hunt an individual before he has even been to court and evidence submitted is called vigilantism.
Its what lynch mobs do..It lowers people to the standards of those they accuse. A lawless mob.
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01-05-2015, 08:04 PM
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Markey, I think I might have said something, but I don't actually think you are a thug. I think you are a caring, compassionate man. I'd hate to think you'd really beat someone up because I don't really think you're that type of person. You are just infused with anger about something you feel strongly about, but can do nothing and feel helpless. I could beat the shit out of the McCanns, but feel helpless for Madeleine. We're only human and humane. We're not uncaring and probably more compassionate than most. Its not a fault. I'd prefer to be like this.
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01-05-2015, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Cass ->
Can I just quote you..

*Few years back when we were a rugby training , a chap run across our pitch with policemen chasing them , couple lads from our rugby team give chased and caught this chap , when the police arrived couple of the policemen give this chap a dig , we ask what he done to deserve such treatment , the police officer said he's sexual assaulted a young boy in the park , we ask the police can we give him a beating too , they said yes and walk around the corner as we give this nonce good hiding , the police come back and said , he put up a fight and assaulted our police officer , we said yes and we will be witness to the assault , yes I would tell the police if a child or woman was assaulted , but if I witness such crime , I wouldn't stand and do nothing , they get the back of my hand , I really hate nonces and bullies *


The difference between the case you quote and the man you gave a beating to was that the man in the above case has been tried and convicted..
Justice has heard the evidence and will sentence him.

Im not saying that the first reaction of a parent who caught someone abusing their child wouldnt be to hit out as a shock reaction it would be perfectly understandable.
But for a group to hunt an individual before he has even been to court and evidence submitted is called vigilantism.
Its what lynch mobs do..It lowers people to the standards of those they accuse. A lawless mob.


Yes the chap we give a beating was sentence for the child he raped in the park were we caught him , the mum of the child wanted to kill him when we caught him , but you wouldn't want harm to a rapist that rape your child or love one ,
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01-05-2015, 08:16 PM
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Please dont try to twist what I say or put words in my mouth Markey... its childish.

Im glad the person was taken to court and sentenced it still does not make what you and your mates did right...
What if it had been mistaken identity?

You and your mates took the law into your own hands , its wasnt your loved one or your child you simply acted on the suspicions of someone else..
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01-05-2015, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Myra ->
Markey, I think I might have said something, but I don't actually think you are a thug. I think you are a caring, compassionate man. I'd hate to think you'd really beat someone up because I don't really think you're that type of person. You are just infused with anger about something you feel strongly about, but can do nothing and feel helpless. I could beat the shit out of the McCanns, but feel helpless for Madeleine. We're only human and humane. We're not uncaring and probably more compassionate than most. Its not a fault. I'd prefer to be like this.


Thanks myra your one of my favourites posters on here , so level headed and kind hearted . I can never understand why the mccanns were not done for child neglect , I know it a big case regarding the mccanns , but I really haven't read enough about them to give a comment , but I little I have heard it does sound bit odd,

When I said we beat him up , the mother of the child was bassically doing it as we hold him down , yes a few digs went in , think it made it worst his attidude , smirking , and plus he had no trousers on , what made the situration more raw
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01-05-2015, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Cass ->
Please dont try to twist what I say or put words in my mouth Markey... its childish.

Im glad the person was taken to court and sentenced it still does not make what you and your mates did right...
What if it had been mistaken identity?

You and your mates took the law into your own hands , its wasnt your loved one or your child you simply acted on the suspicions of someone else..

Fact It wasn't mistaken identity , he was sentence , plus the mother of the child minutes later arrived on the scene pointing him out



Not trying to twist , just talking plain and simple facts , again if it was your child that just been raped , and we caught him and you were there , you would of stop us roughing him up for what he did,
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01-05-2015, 08:31 PM
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I say it now , I believe if you don't fight to protect your children , your a unfit parent , if one stands there and do nothing your sub human ,
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01-05-2015, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Myra ->
Markey, I think I might have said something, but I don't actually think you are a thug. I think you are a caring, compassionate man. I'd hate to think you'd really beat someone up because I don't really think you're that type of person. You are just infused with anger about something you feel strongly about, but can do nothing and feel helpless. I could beat the shit out of the McCanns, but feel helpless for Madeleine. We're only human and humane. We're not uncaring and probably more compassionate than most. Its not a fault. I'd prefer to be like this.


I never loss my temper myra , properly that was the first time and last in years , just know victims of abuse and rape will live their entrie lives effected by what happen to them ,


Anyway how are you today myra , keeping well I hope
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01-05-2015, 09:55 PM
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There are many ways of fighting not all of them involve beating people up.

My child being hurt yes Id want to do something myself and with the police and justice system ..

You opened this thread as some sort of defence for someone calling you a thug.
Youve yet to prove your point.
 
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