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I forgot to mention this: -

In the early hours of Monday morning we were woken by blue flashing lights.

It was the Fire Brigade dousing a fire in a mobile snack wagon that one of our neighbours parks outside a Council House of a friend for some reason.

I saw a fireman, sorry, Firefighter spraying this from about 20 feet away with a water hose from the engine but later, when I came home the bloke that left this outside was clearing it out - and there were TWO 6Kg Propane Gas Bottles in it!

No idea if the Brigade knew about that but, if they'd blown up, the house opposite has several children inside and the house it's all outside has another.

It was only about 60 feet from us too. stevmk2
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Careless hardly covers it !
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Careless hardly covers it !
So very,very true.
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No idea if the Brigade knew about that but, if they'd blown up, the house opposite has several children inside and the house it's all outside has another.

It was only about 60 feet from us too. stevmk2
The bottles wouldn't explode even under those circumstances they have a built in safety valve which releases excessive pressure. Gas bottles rarely explode, it is an urban myth. Of course the escaping gas will add to the fire.
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I donīt know whether gas bottles explode frequently or not, but one certainly exploded not far from us last week, it was reported in all the newspapers too. We also saw one explode at a garage in Kenya, one person killed and a few others injured from flying debris. Personally I am very happy that we no longer have to use them even though Repsol come to do safety checks every year I never liked them. Explosions might be rare but they do happen.

http://www.coastrider.net/news/local...explosion.html
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I donīt know whether gas bottles explode frequently or not, but one certainly exploded not far from us last week, it was reported in all the newspapers too. We also saw one explode at a garage in Kenya, one person killed and a few others injured from flying debris. Personally I am very happy that we no longer have to use them even though Repsol come to do safety checks every year I never liked them. Explosions might be rare but they do happen.

http://www.coastrider.net/news/local...explosion.html
I don't think that is right, it was a gas explosion but the cylinder did not explode. Reading the article it sounds as if the leaking gas filled the room/house then exploded rather than the cylinder itself exploding. That is far more likely because the gas has to mix with a certain amount of air to explode (one of the reasons why cylinders themselves don't explode).

All gasses have an UEL and LEL (upper and lower Explosive limit) which is the percentage of gas in air required for an explosion. The worst is Hydrogen which explodes in a concentration between 5% and 95% whereas LPG is something like 5% to 15%. Those figures are from memory so probably not exactly right but you get the idea.
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Originally Posted by clumsy ->
I donīt know whether gas bottles explode frequently or not, but one certainly exploded not far from us last week, it was reported in all the newspapers too. We also saw one explode at a garage in Kenya, one person killed and a few others injured from flying debris. Personally I am very happy that we no longer have to use them even though Repsol come to do safety checks every year I never liked them. Explosions might be rare but they do happen.

http://www.coastrider.net/news/local...explosion.html
Friends of ours who used to live not far from Valencia were at a BBQ at a friends house when gas from a propane bottle went up clumsy.
I don't know what caused it but I suppose it could have been a faulty valve as the bottle themselves are pretty safe.

Years ago I worked in a place that used Nitrogen and we were getting in the bottles and the delivery man slipped and dropped the bottle from the back of the lorry and it hit a step right on the valve.

The sudden release in pressure shot the thing across the pavement like a rocket and it buried itself in the wall next to where my workmate was standing. stevmk2
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Originally Posted by stevmk2 ->
Years ago I worked in a place that used Nitrogen and we were getting in the bottles and the delivery man slipped and dropped the bottle from the back of the lorry and it hit a step right on the valve.

The sudden release in pressure shot the thing across the pavement like a rocket and it buried itself in the wall next to where my workmate was standing. stevmk2
That is a real danger for sure, any bottle can turn into a missile if the valve gets damaged.

I have only been nervous with gas once - many years ago I was topping up an alternator with hydrogen from a rather old and leaking bank of probably 30 Hydrogen bottles when a boiler maker took a short cut through the bay smoking a cigarette. I took off like a rabbit out through the open side of the building until he had got into the open air where I told him what a prize galah he was (that wasn't the exact wording I used).
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That is a real danger for sure, any bottle can turn into a missile if the valve gets damaged.
Got to tell you this one, although it's a stupidly dangerous example!

I worked on what's called a GOSP, (Gas-Oil separator plant) in Saudi and we'd virtually finished all the construction except the flare line when the local bigwig wanted to show-off to a Royal visitor so we had to stage a ceremonial light-up of the flare.

As the pipeline hadn't been finished and there was no time, a truck full of gas was brought in and hooked-up for the big event and a bloke with a flame thrower and fire suit was carefully secreted out of site of the dignitaries.

On the ceremonial switch-on the bloke fired up the flame thrower - and there was bang then the flare gushed out a jet of flames and smoke about fifty feet high!

The Saudi truck operator had turned the tap on the hidden truck a several minutes early and, although nobody was seriously harmed, he did get 1st degree burns to his face as he'd climbed the flare pit to watch!

The best result was the dignitaries - they'd all disappeared in a blink of an eye, thinking it was all going up. stevmk2
 



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