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Originally Posted by longfellow ->
Anger are my feeling especially when I read and listen to the news and something like this is spoken about.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eld-China.html

Oh the irony of it all.
We find ourselves depending on the one country that caused all this mess by creating this killer virus for our own people's protective clothing and the delivery standards and the making of the mask's and clothing is far below what they should be.

Lets hope this is top of the list by the Government to start producing our own protective equipment when this pandemic is over.
We should start producing a lot more things in this country longfellow, and give our own people jobs instead of buying foreign cheap tat....
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We should start producing a lot more things in this country longfellow, and give our own people jobs instead of buying foreign cheap tat....
The Loaded Labour Rate in the UK is FAR to high.

The LLR is the total cost of employing a person. It means that it makes cost per product or cost per hour for a service eyewatering and totally nonsensical when the same can be obtained from overseas. Business is about one thing and one thing ONLY. Delivering shareholder value or in the case of a private business making as higher profit as possible.

Only when the costs in the UK fall to provide a reduced cost than the Loaded Purchase Price from an overseas source.

In short, we've priced ourselves out of the market in just about everything. There is a solution - but the Great Unwashed wouldn't like it though it is a racing certainty that sooner rather than later they're going to have no choice. Covid-19 is going to see to that.
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger ->
The Loaded Labour Rate in the UK is FAR to high.

The LLR is the total cost of employing a person. It means that it makes cost per product or cost per hour for a service eyewatering and totally nonsensical when the same can be obtained from overseas. Business is about one thing and one thing ONLY. Delivering shareholder value or in the case of a private business making as higher profit as possible.

Only when the costs in the UK fall to provide a reduced cost than the Loaded Purchase Price from an overseas source.

In short, we've priced ourselves out of the market in just about everything. There is a solution - but the Great Unwashed wouldn't like it though it is a racing certainty that sooner rather than later they're going to have no choice. Covid-19 is going to see to that.
Yes Todger, I know what you mean, first we must address the prohibitively high labour costs here in the UK, we have the unions to thank for that....

When I first took a job as a general machinist and toolmaker in a small company producing Diamond Abrasive grinding wheels, drills, and hone's, the cost of the product was made up mainly by the materials; fast forward to 1995 and it was labour that accounted for over 70% of the cost.

One of our major customers was Triplex Glass and we supplied one third of all their Diamond Wheels, with a couple of other small companies supplying the other two thirds. Although they claimed that our wheels outperformed the other two companies they would never let any one company supply their wheels, in case one company failed.

In 1995 a Japanese competitor gave them free diamond wheels for six months; it practically put us out of business had we not had some other big orders from other well known companies. Other problems did arise around that time and our company in Doncaster closed its doors and made all the engineers and labourers, including me... redundant....

Sorry for going off topic LQ....x
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That's the part that angers me, the fact they tried to hide it.


I have a holiday booked for June and one for September and I was thinking last night I doubt we will be able to do the September one too. I do hope I'm wrong, we will all need an enjoyable holiday after all this is over.

I hope you get your holiday in September Apricot x
Why thank you LQ,& I hope you get yours too .
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I am quite spontaneous by nature - so it irks me that I cannot just decide to take off somewhere for the day. On the plus side - I do have plenty to keep me occupied and am catching up with tasks that have been waiting for a while.

It infuriates me that some people break the rules and still have visitors coming and going - even staying over night.

I don't worry about catching C19 - am taking sensible precautions and have a robust immune system - if it happens it happens.

The worst thing for me so far is I really do miss the sea. Normally I would have had a couple of trips to the coast by now. Having been born by the sea it has a special draw for me - I need to see/hear/smell/touch it regularly. It makes me sad and restless because I cannot.
Tabby, perhaps you can educate me ? Are you not allowed to go to the coast and walk on the beach or just have a blanket spread on a clifftop ? Surely there must be plenty of totally vacant spots on the coast ?
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Danm those Chinese .
I read today that the UNI at Wuhan has shut down it"s doors to students and any who want to investigate the virus are being denied permission . Well if that is not an admission of guilt ,I don"t know what is ?
They are just taking us all for mugs ,I heard that they knew of this in November about the wet markets at Wuham but kept it under their hats
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That's the part that angers me, the fact they tried to hide it.
I feel exactly the same way about the Chinese communist government. If their behavior is not evil, then I don't know what evil is. Perhaps now, those who are communist/socialist leaning will reconsider ?

This C-19 is something which will be talked about for decades to come.

I especially feel so sorry for those women and children who are experiencing increased rates of domestic abuse. They are trapped with their abuser and must be going through hell on earth. Makes me so sad.
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I feel exactly the same way about the Chinese communist government. If their behavior is not evil, then I don't know what evil is. Perhaps now, those who are communist/socialist leaning will reconsider ?

This C-19 is something which will be talked about for decades to come.

I especially feel so sorry for those women and children who are experiencing increased rates of domestic abuse. They are trapped with their abuser and must be going through hell on earth. Makes me so sad.
So sad as you say Bakerman
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Tabby, perhaps you can educate me ? Are you not allowed to go to the coast and walk on the beach or just have a blanket spread on a clifftop ? Surely there must be plenty of totally vacant spots on the coast ?
No, Bakerman, we have been told to stay at home. Currently we are allowed out for food shopping/pharmacy supplies/dog walking and one exercise walk per day. We are not supposed to go out on day trips anywhere. Police can stop and question car drivers/pedestrians and - I think - fine those breaking the 'lock down' conditions.

For me to go to the coast would require two bus journeys - which definitely not be allowed at present.
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