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08-12-2016, 12:33 PM
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Re: Why did the sensible majority of the UK vote for Brexit?

Originally Posted by realspeed ->
Simple answer as to voting in favour, did not want to be ruled by a foreign power. We did not fight 2 world wars just to be taken over by French or German politicians.
We have our own government devolved over hundreds of years not a 5 minute wonder from Brussels
The young (many of the remainiacs) cannot see that as the concept of the Second World War means nothing to them.
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Re: Why did the sensible majority of the UK vote for Brexit?

Originally Posted by Longdogs ->
My reasons were exactly the same as yours JBR. I was not really concerned about the economic side of things because I'm sure whoever is in charge would be ripping us off. It was all the stupid rules and regs that got to me and the fact that there are people who get paid a hell of a lot of money to sit there and debate what shape a croissant should be.
Yes, and we pay them to rule us!
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Re: Why did the sensible majority of the UK vote for Brexit?

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https://youtu.be/NfAhbYfF-wQ

That goes someway to showing where YOUR tax is spent another layer of government on top of the one we already have at home
Yes, some people seem to like layers of governments. We have three at the moment: local councils, Westminster and Brussels.

If earlier EU plans went ahead, there would be four: local councils, regional governments, Westminster (practically defunct and ineffectual) and Brussels.

Some people need their heads examining.
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08-12-2016, 12:41 PM
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Re: Why did the sensible majority of the UK vote for Brexit?

Originally Posted by Flowerpower ->
I voted Leave and I would vote Leave again if I had to without a doubt.
You are not alone. I'm sure that if another referendum was held, as the Limp Dems and SNP would like so much, we'd find that the majority in favour of Brexit would be even higher.

What a slap in the face for the remainiacs that would be!
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08-12-2016, 01:16 PM
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I think most sensible UK voters will have thought about all aspects of the EU before voting not least the bureaucracy and the waste demonstrated by this article..

The full cost of the travelling circus that sees MEPs decamp once a month from Brussels to Strasbourg can be disclosed. And even though MEPs have voted to scrap a second parliament, the French government has the power to block any such move

It is perhaps the most outlandish of the European Union’s excesses; a £130 million travelling circus that once a month sees the European Parliament decamp from Belgium to France.
Over the course of the weekend, some 2,500 plastic trunks will be loaded on to five lorries and driven almost 300 miles from Brussels to Strasbourg.
On Monday, about 1,000 politicians, officials and translators will then make the same journey on two specially chartered trains hired at taxpayers’ expense.
A few thousand more will go to Strasbourg by other means, as the European Parliament switches from Brussels, its permanent base, to its “official” home in northern France.
For the first time, the full detail of this “madness”, contained in official European documents.

Among the costs are £250,000 a year to transport the plastic boxes containing documents, diaries and other items from Brussels to Strasbourg and back again. The boxes are left outside offices in Brussels on a Friday evening, collected by a courier company and driven to Strasbourg, where they are unloaded and left outside offices there. The process is repeated in reverse on Thursday evening.
It is thought it costs up to £200,000 for the EU to charter two express trains to take officials, MEPs and others there on a Monday morning and back on a Thursday afternoon. The trains stop only once at an airport in Paris to collect or drop MEPs and no ordinary member of the public can get on board, for a train which arrives in time for parliamentary sessions beginning in the afternoon.
Many of the details are contained within a report into the “financial and environmental impact” of operating two parliaments, which was overseen by Klaus Welle, the secretary-general to the European Parliament, its top civil servant. Mr Welle had been requested by MEPs to give an accurate figure on the costs of two parliaments amid a growing clamour to scrap one of them.
The report shows how taxpayers foot the £2.5 million bill for relocating freelance translators from Brussels to Strasbourg and back again, including costs of travel, accommodation and other expenses.
Providing catering services in Strasbourg costs an additional £1 million, while extra medical support comes to some £330,000.
In Strasbourg, extra money is needed for computers and IT support and for maintenance and security of the sleek parliament building, which was completed in 1999. In total, the cost of looking after the French buildings and infrastructure and other charges comes to about £50 million a year.
One source suggested that before each session begins, a maintenance crew visits every bathroom and turns on and off every tap to make sure no pipes have been blocked since they were last used and to rid the pipes of stale water.
A spokesman said that the maintenance teams looked after the building just like any other.
About 100 people are employed in Strasbourg full-time, even though the European Parliament meets for 12 sessions, each lasting four days, a total of only 48 days each year.
But during those four-day sessions, the circus is in town. About 5,500 people pour into Strasbourg; not only politicians and officials but lobbyists, too.
Hotels in Strasbourg typically double their rates when the EU comes to stay. Last week, the Hilton Hotel in Strasbourg was offering rooms at £82 for Sunday night, but this rose to a cheapest rate of £161 a night for Monday, when the sessions begin.
One MEP said he booked his accommodation a staggering five years in advance to ensure obtaining a room at a reasonable rate.
For an EU obsessed by climate change and its possible effects, more embarrassing is the report’s admission that “10,200 tonnes of CO2 per year would be saved if Strasbourg were no longer used as a place of work”.
That is the equivalent of 12,000 cars driving around the circumference of the world.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ng-circus.html
This article is three years old, I have no doubt the costs will have increased since then.

We are all contributing to the farce that is the EU an organisation which is no longer a trading club with expensive membership fees but an extra layer of government that we don't need.
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08-12-2016, 01:25 PM
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Re: Why did the sensible majority of the UK vote for Brexit?

Originally Posted by Meg ->
I think most sensible UK voters will have thought about all aspects of the EU before voting not least the bureaucracy and the waste demonstrated by this article..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ng-circus.html


We are all contributing to the farce that is the EU an organisation which is no longer a trading club with expensive membership fees but an extra layer of government that we don't need.
Thank you Meg. A very informative article.

I have often wondered why it is felt necessary to move the EU parliament, lock stock and barrel, twice a year at great expense. The only reason I can see is to keep the French happy and make them feel important.

Perhaps Flicker can explain why this expensive fiasco takes place.

No? I thought not!
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Re: Why did the sensible majority of the UK vote for Brexit?

Originally Posted by JBR ->
Yes, some people seem to like layers of governments. We have three at the moment: local councils, Westminster and Brussels.

If earlier EU plans went ahead, there would be four: local councils, regional governments, Westminster (practically defunct and ineffectual) and Brussels.

Some people need their heads examining.
We already have four up here in Scotland.
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08-12-2016, 01:30 PM
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Re: Why did the sensible majority of the UK vote for Brexit?

Originally Posted by JBR ->
Thank you Meg. A very informative article.

I have often wondered why it is felt necessary to move the EU parliament, lock stock and barrel, twice a year at great expense. The only reason I can see is to keep the French happy and make them feel important.

Perhaps Flicker can explain why this expensive fiasco takes place.

No? I thought not!
It's Jobs for the boys and girls JB, have as many as you can and spend as much as possible after all the gullible taxpayers are paying and there are seemingly no books to ballance in the EU
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08-12-2016, 01:33 PM
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Re: Why did the sensible majority of the UK vote for Brexit?

Originally Posted by Meg ->
It's Jobs for the boys and girls JB, have as many as you can and spend as much as possible after all the gullible taxpayers are paying and there are seemingly no books to ballance in the EU
But why Strasbourg? I would have thought Berlin!
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08-12-2016, 01:38 PM
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Re: Why did the sensible majority of the UK vote for Brexit?

Originally Posted by scot37 ->
We already have four up here in Scotland.
More expense!

Same for Wales and Northern Ireland, of course.

Funny that there is no Yorkshire parliament, though. Then Yorkshire could hold an independence referendum too! (Yorkshire has a population as big as Scotland, and much bigger than Wales or N. Ireland.)
 
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