Re: Time for Nigel to organise?

The amendments would be stupid stuff like 2nd referendum etc.

After 3.5 years of this shit I know how the quislings operate

Re: Time for Nigel to organise?

An unratified agreement Solly, it did not get through parliament?
What is the matter with your memory?
Or is google down today?

Donkeyman!

Re: Time for Nigel to organise?

That is not the issue donks. In the course of years the UK put it's signature under many agreements, some with pecuniary obligations lasting decades. For instance, the pensions of UK civil servants working in brussels. The withdrawal agreements just sums them up, as a matter of balance. Wether the WA is settled has no influence on the UK's obligation to fulfill the financial commitments from earlier signatories.

Re: Time for Nigel to organise?

Then substantiated bills must be submitted Solly!
And l wouldnt be surprised if inflation could be deducted from
Those figures??
Donkeyman!

Re: Time for Nigel to organise?

Actually Article 50 states the EU is obliged to offer a WITHDRAWAL deal so let's have the truth not your weasel worded rhetoric.

By its very definition a WITHDRAWAL Deal should be a deal that sees the member state actually Withdraw from the EU.

Currently the EU has not offered any such deal to the UK which imho puts it in breach of the Treaty.

The only deal offered is one that sees the UK remain in the EU, in the Customs Union, under the control of the ECJ and on an indefinite basis.

The EU are in breach of the treaty.



Let's be clear the UK people did not sign up to the Lisbon Treaty and all the BS that comes with it. The UK people were given no choice, given no vote, no referendum of it.
Nor on the treaties that came before it.


You may choose to wax lyrical about the parliamentary system at this point citing that parliament is sovereign and that we the people vote in the government and must therefore accept what they do.

The fallacy with that argument is that we have a long standing Constitution which the UK people expect parliament to abide by in all their dealing.

That Constitution expressly forbids the move of the UK into the control of a foreign power.

Therefore whatever has been previously signed is simply illegal, void and unconstitutional.

The Lisbon and other Treaties should simply be repealed instantly because they are totally unlawful in this country.
Corrupt politicians pushing those treaties through behind closed doors does not make them any more legal.


Thus the UK has no legal place as a member state of the EU other than as a trading partner. These 3 years of wrangling are just Billy BS nonsense being carried out by the same corrupt EU serving politicians acting fraudulently.

Parliament should just repeal the Treaties.

What has been signed has been signed by fraudsters.

If you buy a car from a chap down the pub and the car turns out to be stolen, I'm afraid you lose out. Doesn't matter what you paid for the car, it isn't yours, and never was and your money is gone. Your issue is with the man who fraudulently sold it to you. not with the car's real owner.

Similarly with the Lisbon Treaty. The UK people never ever signed up to it and know that it is a totally fraudulent agreement and that our British Constitution expressly forbids the things it sets out.

It is therefore wholly invalid.

The EU can not therefore come crying to the UK for £39bn.

It's issue is directly with the fraudulent individuals who they engaged with in that contract, not with the UK. They will therefore have to go talk to Tony BLiar and co to get their money back.

Its time to put an end to all this nonsense.

The EU Treaties are simply unlawful and unconstitutional.


They must be repealed and we should simply walk away from the EU as a result.

Re: Time for Nigel to organise?

But the deal won't get us out.

It is BRINO.

Re: Time for Nigel to organise?

Swims is well aware of this

He is a Remainer and is playing his own game.


Like all remainers they welcome any EU deal because they know all EU deals actually keep us in the EU.


There is only one way to actually leave and that is to walk away with no deal initially and then and only then to negotiate a good deal.

Leavers should not be swayed by Remainer rhetoric. They will do anything to keep us in the EU.

We must walk away, totally, irrevocably, clean cut, no going back.

Re: Time for Nigel to organise?

Absolutely.

Is anyone actually worried that they won't agree a mutually beneficial deal once we have left?

Of course they will. Not to do so will hurt them more than it hurts us, especially as we are nett importers.

Re: Time for Nigel to organise?

Still all vain hopes though.

There's no way they are going to properly let us leave. They are going to continue their agenda for a federal states of Europe.

We will be dragged into the Euro too. Unquestionably.

The £1 coin we now have is almost identical to the 1 Euro coin. All done to condition us so the change won't seem so drastic.

Re: Time for Nigel to organise?

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When we are forced to accept the Euro, and the 1 Euro replaces the 1 Pound in our pockets, you can be sure that the replacement coin will be worth no more than the Euro.