25-06-2014, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by gumbud
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in 2001 approx 40% of people believed there was more racial prejudice that in the previous 5 yrsin 2005 48% and in 2008 56% - remembering these are peoples beliefs [perceptions] not necessarily what was reality.
and in terms of religious prejudice:
if this belief also reflects reality then I would imagine that as prejudices increase so fairness decreases?
Bad news creates bad feeling I've always thought so the more emphasis the media put on immigrants, (legal or otherwise), and, in particular, the effect on our infrastructure and services, the higher the rate of prejudice will be!
Where I live I think is probably a microcosm of the UK and we have large numbers of immigrants come into our community and been accepted.
The ONLY time that prejudice seems to raise it's head or become an "issue" is when immigrants seem to create ghettos and they then appear to others to be getting preferential treatment!
The ghetto argument is of course a fallacy because you see the same thing in Spain for example with Brits all taking over the one area and refusing to learn Spanish and that creates racial prejudice amongst the Spanish!
People are people and if they believe that others are getting a better deal than they are they will resent that.
Resentment creates distrust and hinders integration which in turn creates racial tension so is that a reflection of belief or an effect gumbud? stevmk2
25-06-2014, 09:54 AM
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TRUE TO say all people may have some prejudice, its a human trait alas.but ,that does not have to translate into our institutions, which SHOULD be
fair and judge people by merit alone,
yet i wonder how many people answer questions with honesty, or even thinking? so im not sanguine about polls, but they are useful nonetheless.
25-06-2014, 11:20 AM
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I personally think that both australia and UK are becoming fairer [no skin color intended] countries - they are both examples of integrating multicultural countries and are slowly, slowly learning to accept this - being 'white' has for so long been a mantle of superiority and control that letting go of the mantle is sometimes difficult!25-06-2014, 11:30 AM
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Re: How Fair is Britain?
Originally Posted by gumbud
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I personally think that both australia and UK are becoming fairer [no skin color intended] countries - they are both examples of integrating multicultural countries and are slowly, slowly learning to accept this - being 'white' has for so long been a mantle of superiority and control that letting go of the mantle is sometimes difficult!
To many people, everyone's getting a "better deal" out of life than they are and our government seems blind to the tension and emnity building up.
Many, many people here voted UKIP simply to get the other three parties to sit up and take notice and fairness - particularly the perceived lack of it - has everything to do with it IMHO. stevmk2
25-06-2014, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by stevmk2
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That surprises me gumbud 'cos I think the opposite in the UK; it's less fair than it was in my opinion and I believe that that's mainly due to the stress that so many are under all the time these days.To many people, everyone's getting a "better deal" out of life than they are and our government seems blind to the tension and emnity building up.
Many, many people here voted UKIP simply to get the other three parties to sit up and take notice and fairness - particularly the perceived lack of it - has everything to do with it IMHO. stevmk2
25-06-2014, 11:48 PM
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there are so many angles to this aspect of 'fairness'. Oz seems to deal with its multiculturalism well but unlike UK has a strong immigration policy and practices [too strong some would say] which enables it to prevent the sort of flooding of immigrants UK gets.but on a predictive note, IMO there must surely come a point when the original national identity has become so diluted and swamped that something else emerges and the Britishness that we remember and can still just recognize will no longer exist. and some may say "well that's not fair"
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