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18-02-2021, 06:59 PM
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Re: Millions without heat

Originally Posted by bakerman ->
Across Texas, USA millions of people have been left without lights or heat when the entire electric grid collapsed during brutal winter storms. According to the news, dozens of people have frozen to death as temperatures plunge into -20 below zero C.
No indication yet when the electricity will be restored as the storms continue.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politic...-data-n1426208

But one of the most contested issues is the role wind generation has played. Prior to the onset of the storm last week, Texas led the nation in wind power generation and depended on the wind turbines in West-Central and Western Texas, along with a smaller number of turbines along the Gulf Coast, for about 25% of its electricity. As wind power has increased, coal-powered generation plants have been taken offline around the state. Texas has abundant coal, oil, and natural gas, and also has nuclear plants near Dallas and near Houston.

Real-time data from the U.S. Energy Information Administration shows that wind power collapsed as the winter storm swept across the state.
Interesting.
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18-02-2021, 09:09 PM
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I've been in ice related power losses for several days, once when the kids were little. It's all about perspective and problem solving. Power loss in ice storms is not unheard of.

It isn't fun, but for most it isn't tragic, it just require adapting. The first goal is to keep the heat in, so we closed off most of the rooms and lived in the living room which was on the south side of the house capturing the most sun, and slept there too. We ran the fireplace, but only in the day so as not to pull more heat out than we were bringing in. We insulated the windows and doors even further, by putting towels around the seams, keeping the draperies closed, and plastic trash bags over the patio doors that faced the north.

We dressed and slept in layers. A few times, we drove to a library or had a long meal in places that did have power - enjoying the heat of the car en route. We also set up a popup tent in the living room where the kids and dogs slept to keep in the heat. We went to bed early and got up late.

As we do in hurricanes, we ate everything out of the freezer and fridge knowing that it could spoil, and moved any food we were concerned about into the garage where it was well below freezing.

We cooked on a gas stove and fireplace and also boiled water to keep the humidity and therefore the "feels like" temperature higher. Those were in the days before we could afford to have a refrigerator.

I had the kids do activities to keep them moving and when we let the dogs out, or went out ourselves, we exited through a room we had sealed off, so as not to let the cold air into the living room.

We used candles and flashlights, played board games, did activities to keep the kids moving, and made the best of it.

The kids remember it as an extraordinarily good time.
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18-02-2021, 10:23 PM
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Who remembers the three day week? During the miners strike electricity was limited and our factory was only allowed power for three days per week on a rotation basis. Although it wasn't in the winter.....

I recall a power outage down the eastern seaboard of the USA due to solar flares and sunspot activity, transformers were destroyed and can not easily be manufactured and installed.

As we are becoming more dependent on technology this is only the start of what is to come......Mother nature has a habit of throwing a curved ball every now and then....

https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/fe..._darkness.html
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18-02-2021, 11:01 PM
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Re: Millions without heat

I have friends in Dallas I wonder how they are getting on?

Not that it ever gets to freezing where I live but I do have a couple of generators for power cuts if only to keep my fridges and freezer going.

Originally Posted by OldGreyFox ->
Who remembers the three day week? During the miners strike electricity was limited and our factory was only allowed power for three days per week on a rotation basis. Although it wasn't in the winter.....
I remember the three day week very well, a triumph of that brain dead pedo Heath. I was watching Dumbo in a Streatham cinema when the power went out and we got our money back. Australia offered to land coal in the UK for a quarter/half of the price the UK could dig it out of the ground and Heath knocked it back. You could be living in a land of milk and honey now.

That was when you had a chance to vote "No" to the EU and knocked that back too.
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18-02-2021, 11:10 PM
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Re: Millions without heat

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I have two flasks and a heap of candles stashed for such emergencies. I'm so grateful I have never had to use them, but still...its reassuring to know they are there.
How are you going to make a hot drink for the flasks if there’s a sudden power cut PK ?
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18-02-2021, 11:19 PM
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Re: Millions without heat

Originally Posted by OldGreyFox ->
I recall a power outage down the eastern seaboard of the USA due to solar flares and sunspot activity, transformers were destroyed and can not easily be manufactured and installed.
That was not the problem. The problem is how do you start a power plant when you have no electricity? You need electricity to start the fans and the pumps to get the boiler going before you can feed steam to a turbine. You need power to run all the auxiliary equipment such as oil pumps, cooling pumps for that turbine before it is able to generate enough power to run itself and create surplus power.

A black start is a nightmare scenario hence the rolling blackouts to stop this happening.
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18-02-2021, 11:19 PM
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Re: Millions without heat

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Power is just one of those things we tend to forget about and take for granted - until we have to do without. I am all electric but do have a little camping stove (just in case). Bought it six years ago and never had to use it yet.

Dreadful to think of the impact the outage must be having for so many people in those weather conditions - especially the old and the vulnerable.
You're like me by the sounds of it , having things to hand that you might never need . I bought a big snow shovel after a bad winter ,have forgotten what year it was but I’m sure someone will know, we couldn’t get out to go to our booked Scarborough hotel for Christmas
Incidentally do you know Travel Insurance doesn’t cover you for that?
Never had to use the shovel , still has the price tag on it .
Sorry Offtopic .
Should I go out and buy a camping stove d”you think ?
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18-02-2021, 11:22 PM
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One thing I might add in all of this is that the Texas Repubican senator, Ted Cruz, was on his way on vacation to Mexico.

Needless to say, he has been called out by his constituents and has (humorously) been sharing photos all day of making his way back to Texas.
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18-02-2021, 11:26 PM
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Re: Millions without heat

Originally Posted by Zuleika ->
How are you going to make a hot drink for the flasks if there’s a sudden power cut PK ?
I have a couple of camping stoves with little gas canisters
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18-02-2021, 11:38 PM
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Re: Millions without heat

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A black start is a nightmare scenario hence the rolling blackouts to stop this happening.
Been there and done that.
 
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