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Confusion reigns. Never mind, it'll soon be Christmas.
Robert, I think a few of our members may have been at the Christmas spirit too early!
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Could be Mags........let's hear it , 1 2 3...

"The Leith POlice dismisseth us" "The Leith POlice dismisseth us" "The Leith POlice dismisseth us"
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Could be Mags........let's hear it , 1 2 3...

"The Leith POlice dismisseth us" "The Leith POlice dismisseth us" "The Leith POlice dismisseth us"
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A ring, a ring o' roses,
A pocket full o'posies-
Atishoo atishoo we all fall down

The rhyme has often been associated with the Great Plague which happened in England in 1665, or with earlier outbreaks of the Black Death in England. Interpreters of the rhyme before the Second World War make no mention of this; by 1951, however, it seems to have become well established as an explanation for the form of the rhyme that had become standard in the United Kingdom.

Peter and Iona Opie remark:
The invariable sneezing and falling down in modern English versions have given would-be origin finders the opportunity to say that the rhyme dates back to the Great Plague. A rosy rash, they allege, was a symptom of the plague, and posies of herbs were carried as protection and to ward off the smell of the disease. Sneezing or coughing was a final fatal symptom, and "all fall down" was exactly what happened
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06-12-2012, 09:13 PM
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I did hear something about that one being connected to the black death Robert. While I have you in the nursery rhyme mood and before you fall asleep, what about Humpty Dumpty and all the King's Men? is there a lesson or hidden message there?
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Robert, I think a few of our members may have been at the Christmas spirit too early!
Guilty as charged Mags.
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Humpty Dumpty was in fact believed to be a large cannon! It was used during the English Civil War ( 1642 - 1649) in the Siege of Colchester (13 Jun 1648 - 27 Aug 1648). Colchester was strongly fortified by the Royalists and was laid to siege by the Parliamentarians (Roundheads). In 1648 the town of Colchester was a walled town with a castle and several churches and was protected by the city wall. Standing immediately adjacent the city wall, was St Mary's Church. A huge cannon, colloquially called Humpty Dumpty, was strategically placed on the wall next to St Mary's Church. The historical events detailing the siege of Colchester are well documented
A shot from a Parliamentary cannon succeeded in damaging the wall beneath Humpty Dumpty which caused the cannon to tumble to the ground. The Royalists, or Cavaliers, 'all the King's men' attempted to raise Humpty Dumpty on to another part of the wall. However, because the cannon , or Humpty Dumpty, was so heavy ' All the King's horses and all the King's men couldn't put Humpty together again!' This had a drastic consequence for the Royalists as the strategically important town of Colchester fell to the Parliamentarians after a siege lasting eleven weeks
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Time for my cocoa.
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Time for my cocoa.
You have been overworking your brain tonight, Robert!

Very interesting facts though ....thanks!
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The idea that the "12 days of Christmas" is some sort of catholic code is a total myth. The song appears to have originated as a child's "memory game" - no more than that.
 
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