08-03-2021, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by The Artful Todger
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You need to look waaay beyond your prejudice against the police and especially so in this case.Floyd was off his face and resisting arrest and there was a hostile crowd assembling. Granted American police can be --- difficult in some cases but they have to deal with a hostile public in "some" parts of town. Once the howls and false news had quietened down and the full picture has emerged a VERY different story has emerged.
He killed that man no doubt about it.
08-03-2021, 06:49 PM
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Re: Derek Chauvin murder trial starts
Originally Posted by Muddy
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He was cuffed and a man sat on his legs .He killed that man no doubt about it.
08-03-2021, 07:53 PM
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Note: A POTENCIAL hostile crowd has absolutely nothing to do with how a suspect is handled.Note: Once a suspect is handcuffed and lying on the ground with a police office sitting on his legs, there is absolutely no possible LEGAL reason to exert force on a suspect's neck.
Clear cut murder ! PERIOD
Note: I have lived an interesting life and unfortunately I have personally seen many cops who have used excessive violence against people. Entirely too many cops in America who have no business being on ANY police force. There are some men, and a few women who love to hurt people. As an alleged civilized nation we must take the next step a weed them out ,and where necessary, send them to prison where they belong.
08-03-2021, 08:16 PM
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Due process is still critically important, perhaps no more so than when a case appears to be cut and dry before a trial starts. Threats of mob violence cannot be allowed to trump trials - especially in this day and age of social media when perspectives and facts can be erroneous or maliciously presented.I am grateful that we have a system that prevents snap judgements and will be pushing this case though the rigors of the justice system. We have to respect the process.
08-03-2021, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Surfermom
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Due process is still critically important, perhaps no more so than when a case appears to be cut and dry before a trial starts. Threats of mob violence cannot be allowed to trump trials - especially in this day and age of social media when perspectives and facts can be erroneous or maliciously presented. I am grateful that we have a system that prevents snap judgements and will be pushing this case though the rigors of the justice system. We have to respect the process.
In the unlikely event that Derek Chauvin is found not guilty, the riots which will surely follow, will make the Rodney King riots look like child's play.
08-03-2021, 08:54 PM
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Re: Derek Chauvin murder trial starts
Originally Posted by bakerman
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Surfermom, you are right. Due process is critical. Derek Chauvin will get his day in court, but unfortunately, his victim, George Floyd, has been denied due process.
08-03-2021, 09:20 PM
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Ah ha. I see one of our posters actually believes that the police have a right to kill a suspect if that suspect is merely unruly.rather reminds me of a case from Portland Oregon where a nurse in a psychiatric hospital called the police on an unruly patient. The police arrived and entered the ward, and approached the patient who was brandishing a wooden pencil. The two police officers, "fearing for their lives" (ha ha) shot the patient dead.
It is a sad day for America when the police have an absolute right to kill anyone who is "unruly".
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