19-04-2017, 06:45 AM
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Re: Do You Say "Off Of" Rather Than Just "Off"?
Originally Posted by Artangel
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Imagine me pointing my finger like on the Jeremy Kyle show, giving you the evils and frothing spit from my teeth missing mouth whilst saying...'Look punk, l ain't bovvered'! 'You wanna come outside and sort it'?
19-04-2017, 07:18 AM
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Re: Do You Say "Off Of" Rather Than Just "Off"?
Grammar - and it's usage - fascinates me.Personally I would never use 'off of' - I know people who do and have always thought it to be regional thing.
To use the examples given in other posts I would say "It went in off the post" in the case of a football.
"It fell from the lorry" in the case of a loose mechanical bit - or - "It fell off the lorry" in the case of something that was part of the cargo.
"Come down from there" in the case of Cats being where they should not be.
I believe a lot depends on what was "fashionable" when at school. We had an English teacher (a relative of Bamber Gasgoine) who was totally pedantic about correct grammar and would tear her hair out if we misused phrases such as "may I" and/or "can I". She also had certain words that she loathed with a passion - for example - we were never allowed to use 'got' or 'get'. She considered them vulgar and unnecessary and we lost marks for each time they appeared in our homework essays - but they are in regular use today.
I love words/grammar and prefer it to be used correctly - but I have been told that my use of language is 'quiant' and outdated. Things evolve.
19-04-2017, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Silver Tabby
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Grammar - and it's usage - fascinates me.Personally I would never use 'off of' - I know people who do and have always thought it to be regional thing.
To use the examples given in other posts I would say "It went in off the post" in the case of a football.
"It fell from the lorry" in the case of a loose mechanical bit - or - "It fell off the lorry" in the case of something that was part of the cargo.
"Come down from there" in the case of Cats being where they should not be.
I believe a lot depends on what was "fashionable" when at school. We had an English teacher (a relative of Bamber Gasgoine) who was totally pedantic about correct grammar and would tear her hair out if we misused phrases such as "may I" and/or "can I". She also had certain words that she loathed with a passion - for example - we were never allowed to use 'got' or 'get'. She considered them vulgar and unnecessary and we lost marks for each time they appeared in our homework essays - but they are in regular use today.
I love words/grammar and prefer it to be used correctly - but I have been told that my use of language is 'quiant' and outdated. Things evolve.
19-04-2017, 08:02 AM
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Re: Do You Say "Off Of" Rather Than Just "Off"?
Originally Posted by Silver Tabby
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I used to be good at spelling until I learned 'Pitman's', or it could just be a need for tea and toast !
We should think of a definition for it.
19-04-2017, 10:31 AM
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One of my own personal torments is the misuse of less and fewer. I see it all the time on notices, and in Sainsbury recently it was written correctly on the wall in huge letters. Some manager (presumably) had seen fit to write it out again in front of the tills but using "less." I altered it - I know, sad or what, but I was so incensed. Beforehand I'd tried explaining that it was incorrect but the staff didn't get it. Thank the Lord the notices disappeared never to be seen again, otherwise I think I'd have had to boycottt the store.Don't get me started on apostrophes ..........
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